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		<title>By: stevencombs</title>
		<link>http://www.giveusoneminute.com/flock/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>stevencombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

You are absolutely correct. Foxmarks is NOT syncing. I ran a couple of tests and found the same thing you did. I guess in my glee, I failed to notice that while I received a sync successful message, nothing was really happening. So sorry that you spent the time to find this out for yourself. I guess next time I will need to “completely” verify an add-ons operation. I have since removed the non-working add-on and now have no syncing of favorites. I am trying to use the del.icio.us integration, but am not liking it so far. So, who do we send e-mails to get Foxmarks working?

Steven
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>You are absolutely correct. Foxmarks is NOT syncing. I ran a couple of tests and found the same thing you did. I guess in my glee, I failed to notice that while I received a sync successful message, nothing was really happening. So sorry that you spent the time to find this out for yourself. I guess next time I will need to “completely” verify an add-ons operation. I have since removed the non-working add-on and now have no syncing of favorites. I am trying to use the del.icio.us integration, but am not liking it so far. So, who do we send e-mails to get Foxmarks working?</p>
<p>Steven<br />
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

My curiosity was sufficiently piqued by your reply that I downloaded and installed Flock to see for myself.

What I found -- to my amazement -- was that, despite the warning message about potential compatibility problems -- Foxmarks installed and claimed to sync without a hitch.

Then I went looking for my synced bookmarks and that's when I ran into trouble. It doesn't appear that there is any UI in Flock to access the "traditional" Firefox bookmarks. It's obvious in the UI to set up Delicious and Magnolia accounts (insert .'s as appropriate) to access those bookmarks, but there's no way that I can see to access the bookmarks that Foxmarks syncs.

This is different from my understanding of what the Flock developers had done -- I thought that they had ripped out the back-end bookmark storage entirely. It appears instead that the back-end remains but is entirely vestigial; the new UI doesn't talk at all to the old back-end.

So while it's technically true to say that Foxmarks works with Flock, it's an academic sort of assertion if you can't actually access the bookmarks that Foxmarks is synchronizing.

I'm not a regular Flock user, though, so it's possible that I've misunderstood something or have missed some less obvious way in. I hope you'll correct me if that's the case.

-Todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>My curiosity was sufficiently piqued by your reply that I downloaded and installed Flock to see for myself.</p>
<p>What I found &#8212; to my amazement &#8212; was that, despite the warning message about potential compatibility problems &#8212; Foxmarks installed and claimed to sync without a hitch.</p>
<p>Then I went looking for my synced bookmarks and that&#8217;s when I ran into trouble. It doesn&#8217;t appear that there is any UI in Flock to access the &#8220;traditional&#8221; Firefox bookmarks. It&#8217;s obvious in the UI to set up Delicious and Magnolia accounts (insert .&#8217;s as appropriate) to access those bookmarks, but there&#8217;s no way that I can see to access the bookmarks that Foxmarks syncs.</p>
<p>This is different from my understanding of what the Flock developers had done &#8212; I thought that they had ripped out the back-end bookmark storage entirely. It appears instead that the back-end remains but is entirely vestigial; the new UI doesn&#8217;t talk at all to the old back-end.</p>
<p>So while it&#8217;s technically true to say that Foxmarks works with Flock, it&#8217;s an academic sort of assertion if you can&#8217;t actually access the bookmarks that Foxmarks is synchronizing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a regular Flock user, though, so it&#8217;s possible that I&#8217;ve misunderstood something or have missed some less obvious way in. I hope you&#8217;ll correct me if that&#8217;s the case.</p>
<p>-Todd</p>
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		<title>By: stevencombs</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevencombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

Foxmarks works with the current version of Flock that I am using (0.9.0.2). I am using Flock and Foxmarks on several different computers (3 Macs and one Windows) and each one continues to sync my bookmarks/favorites. My post was meant to imply that it is working and working well.

Let me know if you need additional info and keep up the great work. The more I use Flock, the more I like it and without Foxmarks, I would still be using Safari for my bookmark syncing needs. Foxmarks is a great product and one I recommend to all my friends, family and students.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>Foxmarks works with the current version of Flock that I am using (0.9.0.2). I am using Flock and Foxmarks on several different computers (3 Macs and one Windows) and each one continues to sync my bookmarks/favorites. My post was meant to imply that it is working and working well.</p>
<p>Let me know if you need additional info and keep up the great work. The more I use Flock, the more I like it and without Foxmarks, I would still be using Safari for my bookmark syncing needs. Foxmarks is a great product and one I recommend to all my friends, family and students.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote:

I even tried installing the Firefox Foxmarks Bookmark Synchronizer (to keep all my bookmarks sync’d across the many computers I use daily) and it is working flawlessly even though it is not “officially” supported.

Thanks for the shout-out.

Unfortunately, Foxmarks works flawlessly with Flock only if by flawlessly you mean "not at all." Flock completely replaces the bookmark system built into Firefox, so making Foxmarks work with Flock is a substantial undertaking, the main reason it hasn't been done yet.

If you've found a version that does indeed work with Flock, please let us know -- Foxmarks is available under an Open Source license so it's always possible that someone has quietly done the heavy lifting to make it work without telling us about it.

For now, as far we know, Foxmarks works only with Firefox and the reasons for that are technical, not policy.

-Todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>I even tried installing the Firefox Foxmarks Bookmark Synchronizer (to keep all my bookmarks sync’d across the many computers I use daily) and it is working flawlessly even though it is not “officially” supported.</p>
<p>Thanks for the shout-out.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Foxmarks works flawlessly with Flock only if by flawlessly you mean &#8220;not at all.&#8221; Flock completely replaces the bookmark system built into Firefox, so making Foxmarks work with Flock is a substantial undertaking, the main reason it hasn&#8217;t been done yet.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve found a version that does indeed work with Flock, please let us know &#8212; Foxmarks is available under an Open Source license so it&#8217;s always possible that someone has quietly done the heavy lifting to make it work without telling us about it.</p>
<p>For now, as far we know, Foxmarks works only with Firefox and the reasons for that are technical, not policy.</p>
<p>-Todd</p>
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