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		<title>By: stevencombs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,
Wow! Thanks for the excellent reply to Ian's question. I sometimes get bogged down with daily life and am not always able to quickly reply to questions. I was getting ready to reply to this one when I saw your response. I couldn't have said it any better. Seeing readers helping readers really put a smile on my face this morning. Thanks!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,<br />
Wow! Thanks for the excellent reply to Ian&#8217;s question. I sometimes get bogged down with daily life and am not always able to quickly reply to questions. I was getting ready to reply to this one when I saw your response. I couldn&#8217;t have said it any better. Seeing readers helping readers really put a smile on my face this morning. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: likuid435</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andre

I stumbled across this thread looking for solutions for some of my own issues.  I read your posts, and I think I can help.

First of all, what Mac OS X is on your computer?  From what it looks like, it appears that you have a version of Mac OS that is something like Mac OS X 10.4.xx, where the Xs signify what update of 10.4 you are running.  If your computer came with OS X 10.4, that means you can upgrade to ANY update within 10.4, meaning you can update to 10.4.1, 10.4.2, 10.4.3....10.4.8...10.4.11 all COMPLETELY FREE.  Now, since the iTunes thing said you had to update to 10.4.8, it is likely that you had something between 10.4.1 and 10.4.7, which means you can update for FREE to 10.4.8, like I previously mentioned.  To do this, what you will need to do (and you should do this very often!!) is go to the apple button on the top left of the screen, click, and then hit software update.  This will then search all of your programs, including all other applications, for FREE updates to your pre-existing software.  It is April 28, 2008 right now, and to my knowledge, there are updates all the way to 10.4.11 available, so it is likely that you will have to update A LOT.  so, I recommend updating EVERYTHING and then doing your ipod stuff.

To clear up more confusion, please keep the following straight.  All OS X 10.4.xx is considered "OS X Tiger."  So you can update all through OS X Tiger for free.  However, the new operating system is Leopard, which is 10.5, not 10.4.  Since this is a completely new operating system and NOT an update, you have to pay $100 to upgrade it to the new OS.  That is why the person said you had to pay 100 dollars to upgrade because you probably asked for an upgrade to Leopard and not to 10.4.8.  So, keep in mind, you can update your pre-existing OS X 10.4.xx TIGER for free by going to software update after clicking on the apple button.  But if you want to upGRADE (not upDATE) to Leopard, you have to pay because you would then be installing a completely new operating system, not updating your existing one.

But, keep in mind that your iTunes thing in order to support the iPod is NOT asking you to upgrade!!! It is only asking you to update, which means all you have to do is go to software update under the apple key and upgrade everything for FREE.  After doing that, everything should work just fine.

Do all of this, and if it doesn't work, then leave another post and I'll help you out more personally.  Macs ARE plug and go; they are VERY VERY efficient and easy to use and have few problems.  Your problems are not arising because of Macs, but they are arising because you are not familiar enough with them to know exactly what you're doing quite yet.  Let me know. 

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andre</p>
<p>I stumbled across this thread looking for solutions for some of my own issues.  I read your posts, and I think I can help.</p>
<p>First of all, what Mac OS X is on your computer?  From what it looks like, it appears that you have a version of Mac OS that is something like Mac OS X 10.4.xx, where the Xs signify what update of 10.4 you are running.  If your computer came with OS X 10.4, that means you can upgrade to ANY update within 10.4, meaning you can update to 10.4.1, 10.4.2, 10.4.3&#8230;.10.4.8&#8230;10.4.11 all COMPLETELY FREE.  Now, since the iTunes thing said you had to update to 10.4.8, it is likely that you had something between 10.4.1 and 10.4.7, which means you can update for FREE to 10.4.8, like I previously mentioned.  To do this, what you will need to do (and you should do this very often!!) is go to the apple button on the top left of the screen, click, and then hit software update.  This will then search all of your programs, including all other applications, for FREE updates to your pre-existing software.  It is April 28, 2008 right now, and to my knowledge, there are updates all the way to 10.4.11 available, so it is likely that you will have to update A LOT.  so, I recommend updating EVERYTHING and then doing your ipod stuff.</p>
<p>To clear up more confusion, please keep the following straight.  All OS X 10.4.xx is considered &#8220;OS X Tiger.&#8221;  So you can update all through OS X Tiger for free.  However, the new operating system is Leopard, which is 10.5, not 10.4.  Since this is a completely new operating system and NOT an update, you have to pay $100 to upgrade it to the new OS.  That is why the person said you had to pay 100 dollars to upgrade because you probably asked for an upgrade to Leopard and not to 10.4.8.  So, keep in mind, you can update your pre-existing OS X 10.4.xx TIGER for free by going to software update after clicking on the apple button.  But if you want to upGRADE (not upDATE) to Leopard, you have to pay because you would then be installing a completely new operating system, not updating your existing one.</p>
<p>But, keep in mind that your iTunes thing in order to support the iPod is NOT asking you to upgrade!!! It is only asking you to update, which means all you have to do is go to software update under the apple key and upgrade everything for FREE.  After doing that, everything should work just fine.</p>
<p>Do all of this, and if it doesn&#8217;t work, then leave another post and I&#8217;ll help you out more personally.  Macs ARE plug and go; they are VERY VERY efficient and easy to use and have few problems.  Your problems are not arising because of Macs, but they are arising because you are not familiar enough with them to know exactly what you&#8217;re doing quite yet.  Let me know. </p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve,

thanks for the response to my IPOD issue with th eMac. You wrote, "I am confused. Why is upgrading to OS 10.4.8 and issue for you. It’s a free upgrade and works well with an eMac. I had version 10.4.9 installed on my eMac before upgrading it to Leopard."

I do not know where to go for this upgrade. When I called Apple to complain, they wanted me to purchase an upgrade for approx $100.00. If you have time could you send me a link for the free upgrade to Leopard?

Thank you, 
Andre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>thanks for the response to my IPOD issue with th eMac. You wrote, &#8220;I am confused. Why is upgrading to OS 10.4.8 and issue for you. It’s a free upgrade and works well with an eMac. I had version 10.4.9 installed on my eMac before upgrading it to Leopard.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not know where to go for this upgrade. When I called Apple to complain, they wanted me to purchase an upgrade for approx $100.00. If you have time could you send me a link for the free upgrade to Leopard?</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Andre</p>
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		<title>By: davidoff</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Great tip, I just installed Leopard on eMac 700MHz for my son and everything was fine. Just one thing: yesterday I tried install Leo using the intel Macbook Pro and it was not good idea. There is o problem with partition of HD - Intel has GUID Partition Table and PowerPC should has Apple partition map. 
So I install Leo and after eMac do nothing. When I try to start Intel macbook from eMac HD, Leopard starts :-)  
So I pick up iMac G5, install again and everything is ok. The advice: you should use computer with PowerPC procesor, maybe some geek knows how to use intel, but I had problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Great tip, I just installed Leopard on eMac 700MHz for my son and everything was fine. Just one thing: yesterday I tried install Leo using the intel Macbook Pro and it was not good idea. There is o problem with partition of HD - Intel has GUID Partition Table and PowerPC should has Apple partition map.<br />
So I install Leo and after eMac do nothing. When I try to start Intel macbook from eMac HD, Leopard starts <img src='http://www.giveusoneminute.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
So I pick up iMac G5, install again and everything is ok. The advice: you should use computer with PowerPC procesor, maybe some geek knows how to use intel, but I had problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi-
Excuse my ignorance, but how is it a free upgrade to 10.4.8? This would be great news as all I'm trying to do is use the 2007 turbotax cd on my emac. I don't want to keep financials on my laptop. I have 10.3.9 right now. 
Could you be specific as to how to upgrade for free, because all I can find are upgrade discs which are priced from about $79-120 and have to be shipped or purchased in a store. Thanks for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi-<br />
Excuse my ignorance, but how is it a free upgrade to 10.4.8? This would be great news as all I&#8217;m trying to do is use the 2007 turbotax cd on my emac. I don&#8217;t want to keep financials on my laptop. I have 10.3.9 right now.<br />
Could you be specific as to how to upgrade for free, because all I can find are upgrade discs which are priced from about $79-120 and have to be shipped or purchased in a store. Thanks for the info</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I was looking for a way to do this for quite a while. I have an old PowerMac G4 400, with 768 RAM (I know, random number, it had 256 when I got it, and I've only thrown in the one 512). I was so excited for Leopard, and then found out that I'd either have to buy a new processor (which I will eventually), or buy a new Mac (which I will somewhat soonish) to use it. So thanks, I'm going to try this as soon as I can borrow my sister's iBook and get a Leopard disc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I was looking for a way to do this for quite a while. I have an old PowerMac G4 400, with 768 RAM (I know, random number, it had 256 when I got it, and I&#8217;ve only thrown in the one 512). I was so excited for Leopard, and then found out that I&#8217;d either have to buy a new processor (which I will eventually), or buy a new Mac (which I will somewhat soonish) to use it. So thanks, I&#8217;m going to try this as soon as I can borrow my sister&#8217;s iBook and get a Leopard disc.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Ammerman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these instructions, which I used to install Leopard on my 700 mHz eMac.  Everything went perfectly - the only thing I did differently was to choose the "upgrade" path rather than the "erase and install" path.  -  So I was able to keep various photos, documents, settings, etc. intact.  I encountered no problems whatsoever.  Once the install was finished, I did a "software update", and finally attached my new external hard drive (which I had partitioned into two drives, one called "desktop" and one called "laptop" - each for Time Machine's exclusive use as backup drives on these respective computers) and ran Time Machine.  The initial backup of the eMac did take a long, long time to complete, but eventually finished successfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these instructions, which I used to install Leopard on my 700 mHz eMac.  Everything went perfectly - the only thing I did differently was to choose the &#8220;upgrade&#8221; path rather than the &#8220;erase and install&#8221; path.  -  So I was able to keep various photos, documents, settings, etc. intact.  I encountered no problems whatsoever.  Once the install was finished, I did a &#8220;software update&#8221;, and finally attached my new external hard drive (which I had partitioned into two drives, one called &#8220;desktop&#8221; and one called &#8220;laptop&#8221; - each for Time Machine&#8217;s exclusive use as backup drives on these respective computers) and ran Time Machine.  The initial backup of the eMac did take a long, long time to complete, but eventually finished successfully.</p>
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		<title>By: stevencombs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andre,

Thanks for the comments. I should first say that I toyed with the idea of not posting your comments due to its tone. We would like to keep our site extremely family friendly with a very upbeat tone. We don't want “Haters” posts. So while we are happy to post comments that criticize products and posts, we would like folks to do so in a very respectful, family friendly manner. On the other hand, you made some good points that I thought I would address.

I am confused. Why is upgrading to OS 10.4.8 and issue for you. It's a free upgrade and works well with an eMac. I had version 10.4.9 installed on my eMac before upgrading it to Leopard. Software Update should take care of that process for you and have your new shiny iPod Classic up and running in no time. I think you will be sadly disappointed with other MP3 players. Especially if you are trying to use them on your eMac. I have tried other MP3 players other than iPods and have never enjoyed using them. Some of our readers may have other suggestions and I would also recommend that you visit Amazon and read user ratings very closely before choosing a different brand. Especially look at comments related to the use of the device on a Mac. Most are Windows-based (including their DRM) and you may not be able to purchase songs using your Mac. However, if you just want to rip your current CD collection, they may work fine.

As for the Leopard upgrade. I do agree that Apple should not have limited Leopard upgrades to newer machines only. It doesn't make sense at this time (especially since you CAN install in it on older machines – just have to run through a few hoops as I described). On the other hand though, OS 10.4 is still a great operating system with another year or two of life left. My wife will not upgrade her MacBook anytime soon because she feels she has all the features she needs.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andre,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments. I should first say that I toyed with the idea of not posting your comments due to its tone. We would like to keep our site extremely family friendly with a very upbeat tone. We don&#8217;t want “Haters” posts. So while we are happy to post comments that criticize products and posts, we would like folks to do so in a very respectful, family friendly manner. On the other hand, you made some good points that I thought I would address.</p>
<p>I am confused. Why is upgrading to OS 10.4.8 and issue for you. It&#8217;s a free upgrade and works well with an eMac. I had version 10.4.9 installed on my eMac before upgrading it to Leopard. Software Update should take care of that process for you and have your new shiny iPod Classic up and running in no time. I think you will be sadly disappointed with other MP3 players. Especially if you are trying to use them on your eMac. I have tried other MP3 players other than iPods and have never enjoyed using them. Some of our readers may have other suggestions and I would also recommend that you visit Amazon and read user ratings very closely before choosing a different brand. Especially look at comments related to the use of the device on a Mac. Most are Windows-based (including their DRM) and you may not be able to purchase songs using your Mac. However, if you just want to rip your current CD collection, they may work fine.</p>
<p>As for the Leopard upgrade. I do agree that Apple should not have limited Leopard upgrades to newer machines only. It doesn&#8217;t make sense at this time (especially since you CAN install in it on older machines – just have to run through a few hoops as I described). On the other hand though, OS 10.4 is still a great operating system with another year or two of life left. My wife will not upgrade her MacBook anytime soon because she feels she has all the features she needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually makes me sick to my stomach to think that my eMAC is now obsolete. It is only 2.5 - 3 years old!

I just bought my wife an IPOD Classic for Christmas and tried to set it up for her. Of course when I plugged in the USB cable and opened up ITUNES the message said that I needed to upgrade to OS 10.4.8 Tiger. Makes me sick that Apple can't supply drivers to work on my "old" machine that cost me top dollar just a few years ago. Now I am expected to go out and buy Leopard or Tiger at approx $120 just to play the damb IPOD that already cost me close to $300?!

These Apple devises are supposed to be plug and go, just as the commercials depict - It's all a load of BS!!!

I think I am just going to take the thing back and get a generic MP3 player that is cheaper. Any one have any Mac MP3 player recommendations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually makes me sick to my stomach to think that my eMAC is now obsolete. It is only 2.5 - 3 years old!</p>
<p>I just bought my wife an IPOD Classic for Christmas and tried to set it up for her. Of course when I plugged in the USB cable and opened up ITUNES the message said that I needed to upgrade to OS 10.4.8 Tiger. Makes me sick that Apple can&#8217;t supply drivers to work on my &#8220;old&#8221; machine that cost me top dollar just a few years ago. Now I am expected to go out and buy Leopard or Tiger at approx $120 just to play the damb IPOD that already cost me close to $300?!</p>
<p>These Apple devises are supposed to be plug and go, just as the commercials depict - It&#8217;s all a load of BS!!!</p>
<p>I think I am just going to take the thing back and get a generic MP3 player that is cheaper. Any one have any Mac MP3 player recommendations?</p>
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		<title>By: ANH TRAN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to know that Leopard runs on "unsupported" macs. I'm gonna check how it works on my god father powerbook g4 titanium 400Mhz!!! By the same way. But a bit different! I restore a G5 hard drive into a fire external drive, then boot the unsupported powerbook g4 by this firewire drive... Will do it tomorrow. Is anyone try this yet? 

Thanks for all your posts.

ANH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to know that Leopard runs on &#8220;unsupported&#8221; macs. I&#8217;m gonna check how it works on my god father powerbook g4 titanium 400Mhz!!! By the same way. But a bit different! I restore a G5 hard drive into a fire external drive, then boot the unsupported powerbook g4 by this firewire drive&#8230; Will do it tomorrow. Is anyone try this yet? </p>
<p>Thanks for all your posts.</p>
<p>ANH</p>
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